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Compost is definitely considered an excellent soil enhancer but from what I've researched it's not considered a fertilizer due to it's low npk values of 1-1-1.
I tend to put extra NPK into my compost heap various ways. It could be helping the micro-organisms that break down the compost, and it will probably still be there when I put it on the garden, in some form or other.
 

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... Compost is definitely considered an excellent soil enhancer but from what I've researched it's not considered a fertilizer due to it's low npk values of 1-1-1.
"Low N, P, K values?" It all depends on what the "compost" is made of.

For example, do you consider well composted cow manure to be "compost" ? I do.

Rather than speculate on its fertilizer value, I choose to test my "compost" so that I know precisely what its value is. My composted cow manure tests out as follows:


NutrientYour ResultsOptimal RangeRating
pH6.375.8-7.0Optimal
Total Nitrogen (N)38.9132.0-60.0Optimal
Nitrate (NO3-N)30.14--
Ammonium (NH4-N)8.77--
Phosphorus (P)31.598.0-20.0High
Potassium (K)114.7938.0-80.0High
Sulfur (S)9.927.0-22.0Optimal
Calcium (Ca)83.0180.0-320.0Optimal
Magnesium (Mg)33.6827.0-70.0Optimal
Sodium (Na)13.810.5-30.0Optimal
Iron (Fe)1.273.0-10.0Low
Manganese (Mn)4.74.0-10.0Optimal
Zinc (Zn)0.170.1-0.25Optimal
Copper (Cu)0.030.06-0.3Low

This is straight composted cow manure...precisely from where it hits the ground. The soil test lab says " No N, P, K required"
 

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"Low N, P, K values?" It all depends on what the "compost" is made of.

For example, do you consider well composted cow manure to be "compost" ? I do.

Rather than speculate on its fertilizer value, I choose to test my "compost" so that I know precisely what its value is. My composted cow manure tests out as follows:


NutrientYour ResultsOptimal RangeRating
pH6.375.8-7.0Optimal
Total Nitrogen (N)38.9132.0-60.0Optimal
Nitrate (NO3-N)30.14--
Ammonium (NH4-N)8.77--
Phosphorus (P)31.598.0-20.0High
Potassium (K)114.7938.0-80.0High
Sulfur (S)9.927.0-22.0Optimal
Calcium (Ca)83.0180.0-320.0Optimal
Magnesium (Mg)33.6827.0-70.0Optimal
Sodium (Na)13.810.5-30.0Optimal
Iron (Fe)1.273.0-10.0Low
Manganese (Mn)4.74.0-10.0Optimal
Zinc (Zn)0.170.1-0.25Optimal
Copper (Cu)0.030.06-0.3Low

This is straight composted cow manure...precisely from where it hits the ground. The soil test lab says " No N, P, K required"
I don't know how to relate those numbers, it's obviously not percentages. I definitely don't call composted manure compost as it has already gone through the digestive system and is well broken down. What I call compost is home made and consists of base carbon and nitrogen plant matter, browns(fallen leaves, wood chips) and greens, (grass clippings, green plant matter etc). I call that compost whereas I call the other manure whether it's been composted to further break it down or not. Even on the bags that I purchase it say composted cow or sheep manure, not compost. Even most common animal manures have very low npk levels. The 1-1-1 levels I mentioned above are actually on the high side for the most part.
 

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I would take 'compost' as deriving from the same origin as 'composed', meaning a mixture of things. Compost heaps rot down, but it is not essential to the meaning, take 'Seed compost', or 'Potting compost' for example, mixtures of things already in their final form. I wouldn't consider cow manure compost, but I would compost with it when I mixed it into the ground.
 

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I don't know how to relate those numbers, it's obviously not percentages...
All values are in ppm...which is standard for most soil tests.

Just for fun, I have also run soil tests on my household compost. It is about 60% kitchen waste and about 30% garden plant matter and another 10% or so cow compost. Again, all values are ppm. And again, No N, P, K required.

My cow compost comes directly from my cows and soil...never ever from a box store. I feed cows hay in winter and where I feed afterwards, I blade up the residuals into a large pile(s) of manure, urine, and some topsoil. I then compost it for several months before applying to the garden.

First photo below is soil test in ppm for my household compost and second photo is typical pile of my homemade "compost" from the cattle feeding.



NutrientYour ResultsOptimal RangeRating
pH6.945.8-7.0Optimal
Total Nitrogen (N)34.9732.0-60.0Optimal
Nitrate (NO3-N)32.89--
Ammonium (NH4-N)2.08--
Phosphorus (P)62.338.0-20.0High
Potassium (K)122.2938.0-80.0High
Sulfur (S)11.517.0-22.0Optimal
Calcium (Ca)428.5980.0-320.0High
Magnesium (Mg)37.8127.0-70.0Optimal
Sodium (Na)23.930.5-30.0Optimal
Iron (Fe)1.153.0-10.0Low
Manganese (Mn)6.444.0-10.0Optimal
Zinc (Zn)1.020.1-0.25High
Copper (Cu)0.10.06-0.3Optimal
Boron (B)0.050.2-0.6Low


Notice the significant presence of plant matter...it is not just cow manure...


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My entire point can be summed up as not all compost is alike...it depends on what materials have gone into the compost. Clearly, some compost (mine for example), contain near optimal values of N, P. K as well as other micro elements.

Other compost, e.g. leaf matter, may not contain any significantly measurable values of the necessary elements for growing veggies.
 

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Do you grow cauliflower? I seem to remember they need boron to make heads.
Yes absolutely. And your question precisely points out the value of soil tests for the home gardener.

My soil has virtually zero boron. Years ago I could not grow cauliflower. It would never make a head.

A soil test showed me why...no boron. Now I always add some boron to my brassicas...without a soil test there is no way I would have known about that deficiency in my soil.

Growing in my garden right now...

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