Ok They Say Heirloom?

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Here's what I got this spring from a hybrid cantaloupe that sprouted many seeds in my compost pile. Every plant produced fruit that was inedible, ugly, and not true to the parent which produced delicious fruit. This happens all the time...the offspring from hybrids are generally NOT desirable.

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Here's what I got this spring from a hybrid cantaloupe that sprouted many seeds in my compost pile. Every plant produced fruit that was inedible, ugly, and not true to the parent which produced delicious fruit. This happens all the time...the offspring from hybrids are generally NOT desirable.

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I have planted a lot of stuff from the grocery store produce over the years.. apples come to mind. I plant them where I hunt for the deer, start the seeds from different apples in the meadows and years later once it produces fruit it's completely different from what the original apple was. I've probably planted 100 trees there since I was a teenager and I can't think of one that looked like the original. Although sometimes I got lucky and they turned out really good and worth eating. I had grown lemon and orange trees from grocery store fruit and they never ended up even having a blossom lol. Although I grew them inside, but after 15 years or so you would think it would have done something.
 

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It's a conspiracy put upon us by the seed companies.... according to our friend, Oliver Buckle.

Like you, I have done this hundreds of times and never once had fruit that looked like the original.
 
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Hybrids are crossed to maximze flavor, size or disease resistance or all. These would naturally cross pollinate but the seeds would not produce the same variety.

The only seed I stay away from would be any GMO product. A great example would be the Monsanto GMO corn. It is injected some how with glyphosate so it is part of its jeans. Therefore it becomes naturally immnue to it. That means they can spray the corn with glyphosate which is basically roundup with no ill effects to the corn. Roundup is toxic and I suggest everyone stay away form it at all cost. If you need to use it for what ever reason protect yourself with appropriate clothing and breathing equipment. In the US their is or was legislation to protect Monsanto from any harm because of this. I believe but not sure it was taken away.

Another variation would be interspecifics. An example would be pluots/plumcots, apruims, nectacots and pluerry. The list goes on and on. I actually started growing these. Any pollin can possibly pollinate anything. The problem is the flower will eventually reject the pollin if not compatible and die. Interspecifics are cross pollinated in a lab. Once pollinated they somehow keep the flower from dying which creates a cross of the fruit. There is a lot more to the story but that is how I basically interpret it.

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Hybrids are crossed to maximze flavor, size or disease resistance or all. These would naturally cross pollinate but the seeds would not produce the same variety.

The only seed I stay away from would be any GMO product. A great example would be the Monsanto GMO corn. It is injected some how with glyphosate so it is part of its jeans. Therefore it becomes naturally immnue to it. That means they can spray the corn with glyphosate which is basically roundup with no ill effects to the corn. Roundup is toxic and I suggest everyone stay away form it at all cost. If you need to use it for what ever reason protect yourself with appropriate clothing and breathing equipment. In the US their is or was legislation to protect Monsanto from any harm because of this. I believe but not sure it was taken away.

Another variation would be interspecifics. An example would be pluots/plumcots, apruims, nectacots and pluerry. The list goes on and on. I actually started growing these. Any pollin can possibly pollinate anything. The problem is the flower will eventually reject the pollin if not compatible and die. Interspecifics are cross pollinated in a lab. Once pollinated they somehow keep the flower from dying which creates a cross of the fruit. There is a lot more to the story but that is how I basically interpret it.

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But as far as GMO would it really matter if you grow it yourself? It's not like you will be spraying roundup, if you do then you probably don't care enough to stay away from it and other chemicals. I'm asking, I don't know. I could see not buying prepared GMO food from a grocery store but seeds in your own garden is mostly in your control. When I think GMO I think seedless. Or when I grow my weed I think feminized seeds that will not produce males.
 
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But as far as GMO would it really matter if you grow it yourself? It's not like you will be spraying roundup, if you do then you probably don't care enough to stay away from it and other chemicals. I'm asking, I don't know. I could see not buying prepared GMO food from a grocery store but seeds in your own garden is mostly in your control. When I think GMO I think seedless. Or when I grow my weed I think feminized seeds that will not produce males.
Roundup is embbed in the seed itself. You are still eating roundup. It is just an example. It is only for comerial use I believe.

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Roundup is embbed in the seed itself. You are still eating roundup. It is just an example. It is only for comerial use I believe.

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I understand now.. I was thinking it soaks it up or something. Yes grocery store stuff I prefer non GMO when I can. Then again I eat McDonald's and fast food more often then I should so it probably doesn't matter lol... I'm surprised I don't glow in the dark some of the stuff I eat 🤣
 
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Speaking of Heirloom....
Can those folks in Zone 8b (or close to it) (Southern SCarolina) give me a list of their best varieties (heirloom only) of the following...purdy please? I am going on my 2nd year gardening so I am new and not having the best of luck with some of the varieties I am doing. I have heard some varieties grow better in some areas than others....so maybe I havent found the best variety for my area yet.

No rush...just when you get a few minutes.

White/Red Potato ?
Sweet Potato ?
Cabbage ?
Broccoli
Watermelon (large and small)
Canteloupe
Zucchini
Corn
Yellow/Crookneck Squash
Cucumbers
Pumpkins (Small-Medium)
Bush Beans
Peas
Celery
Yellow Onion
Big Tomato
Cherry Tomato
 

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