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Message: [QUOTE="cntrlwagdnr, post: 218055, member: 9346"] Federal Way is a long way from here! But I get it. Lived in Bellevue, near Seattle for a few years when I first came to the US, then Portland, OR until 8 years ago - talk about nuttiness now, not just traffic!!! Trouble is a lot of them are coming over here and trying to screw up paradise with their BS they claim they are trying to get away from. If you're trying to get away from it, freakin' leave it there! When in Rome, do as the Romans or the empire strikes back. (Don't say it! My wife grew up here - it counts as home.) Never been to those gardens but they look cool on line. [/QUOTE]