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Message: [QUOTE="PGB1, post: 229629, member: 7718"] Thanks Again CPP Gardener for helping. I appreciate your help. Having no grass, as in the usual urban/suburban lawn type, would be OK with me. Long ago in school we were taught that the typical lawn type grass isn't native to our part of Michigan, so it's always kind of bothered me that we're "supposed" to have it. The people who live next door have a small front lawn at 5 ft x 20 ft. They have nothing but native grasses & plants. It looks good to me with its interesting mix of textures and colors. [/QUOTE]