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Message: [QUOTE="MaryMary, post: 82740, member: 3521"] [B]Beth_B,[/B] yeah, straw bales are another option I'll be looking into. We're renting this house, and I would hate to build a pallet bed then have to leave it, because how would you get that in a pick-up truck?! [B]petesede,[/B] the neighborhood I live in is an older one, and all the trees are HUGE!! Two big maples in my back yard, four big trees in the neighbor's front yard. With the exception of my postage stamp sized front yard, 90% of the rest is shaded all day long. Don't get me wrong, I love those big beauties, but the shade is terrible. [/QUOTE]