ID a Night Bloomer

[roadrunner]

The other day I found this volunteer in the deep shade, so I transplanted it in a sunnier location, hoping that it would like that...It's blooming again, so I took some pics. Can anyone ID?

The plant stands about 8-inches (20 cm); the leaves are about 7-inches (17.75cm) long and 6-inches (15.25cm) wide; the flowers are in total about 3-inches (7.62cm) long and 1.5-inches (3.8cm) wide. And the flowers have no noticeable scent.

Notice in pictures 1 & 2 there is what I think is something from a flower, maybe a fruit or seed pod of some sort. Also, I think the plant might get bigger, since I really don't know how long it's been growing.

 

[MaryMary]

This is a guess, but I think it is a variety of moonflower. There is a bush and a vine. Here is a link to pictures of both.
https://search.yahoo.com/search;_yl...ower+plant+pictures&fr2=sa-gp-&fr=yfp-hrtab-s

Some of them have leaves and pointed petals like yours. Also, the picture you showed looks like the beginning of the round, spiny seed they get. (Be careful of them around bare feet!!)

I just am not sure that's it.

 

[alp]

That looks like an Angel's Trumpet, Brugmansia! Could be!

 

[roadrunner]

Moon flower was my first thought, because I first saw it because of its closed up white flower, that reminded me of the many moonflower vines I grow, albeit their flowers are twice as big.

I'm not really sure what a Angel's Trumpet is, but for some reason that name did go thru my head.

I'll keep an eye on it, since I trans-planted it in a good spot and hopefully it will grow bigger.

BTW, I'm always walking around barefoot and constantly stepping on sweetgum seed pods, so I hope it's not worse than that

 

[alp]

I think it's a datura. I could be very wrong! Think they are of the same family.

The seeds, leaves and roots – when eaten, smoked or brewed into a tea – cause hallucinations and other medical problems. Moonflowers are part of the Solanaceae family, Datura inoxia. The plant, which blooms at night, is typically 3 feet high and is native to the southwestern U.S. and northern Mexico.2 Oct 2008.

Here in the UK, two cases of near rape have been reported using the powder derived from this family. Two ladies were exposed to this and they nearly lost consciousness. HORROR STORIES!

 

[MaryMary]

I agree, alp. The bush type moonflower is datura, which is also the plant we call Jimson weed. The only thing is...the sites I saw said that they exude a sweet smell.

Jimson weed:
https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=j...rc=yfp-hrtab-s&fp=1&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8

 

[alp]

Datura perfume ingredient, Datura fragrance and essential oils ...
https://www.fragrantica.com/notes/Datura-378.html

Datura Brugmansia. Odor profile: very sweet narcotic scent, extremely fragrant and intoxicating, night-blooming and known for being toxic. Datura is probably one of the most interesting ... Datura use has been linked to many deaths, and even the smallest dose can produce extremely unpleasant and dangerous effects.

You're absolutely right!

 

[MaryMary]

Odor profile: very sweet narcotic scent, extremely fragrant and intoxicating,

And the flowers have no noticeable scent.

So... This doesn't seem to fit. roadrunner, do you have allergies or sinus problems?

 

[alp]

So... This doesn't seem to fit. roadrunner, do you have allergies or sinus problems?

LOL!

 

[alp]

Leaves for moonflower

leaves for datura stramonium

 

[MaryMary]

leaves for datura stramonium

Good job, alp!!

 

[alp]

I have the feeling that there are moonflower and moonflower. One is the innocent thug called morning glory by us Brits.The one with the lady

The other is the dodgy druggie moonflower.. the latter being very pretty with a twirl in the petals..

They call this one moonflower as well

And this latter one is more related to Datura. I tried to raise datura from seeds last year and they all germinated, but I couldn't keep them over the harsh winter and they died one by one! Heartbreaking. I have no more seeds to try now and won't buy any until I have moved.

 

[MaryMary]

I have the feeling that there are moonflower and moonflower. One is the innocent thug called morning glory by us Brits.The one with the lady

The other is the dodgy druggie moonflower.. the latter being very pretty with a twirl in the petals....

Yes, I said in post #2, there is a bush and a vine. The vine I have only ever heard called moonflower, it is related to morning glory, just blooms at night. The bush I have heard called both moonflower and Jimson weed. Every so often you hear of some idiot trying to get high on it.

It's perennial here, so if you can get it established, roadrunner, it should be there, as well.

 

[roadrunner]

I do think alp hit it with Datura stramonium -- thanks alp

BTW, the moonflower vine (Ipomoea) in the picture above with the heart-shaped leaves in post #10 is what I normally grow and those flowers are very fragrant.

Now that I transplanted this plant in a much sunnier location, I expect it to start growing well. It initially showed signs of transplant shock, but is now over that and starting to produce more blooms.

However, I've read that the flowers are scented on Datura stramonium, which mine are not, but maybe over time as the plant grows and gets more sun that will change.

Interesting how much this type of moonflower blooms (Datura), much more than the other type I have (Ipomoea), which blooms a lot, but all at the end of the season, usually in September.


Just another reason to not mow the lawn...so many neat things just show up in my yard....